Your Los Alamitos Election 2012 “Cheat Sheet”
November 3, 2012 in Uncategorized By: Dave Emerson
Updated 11/3 with Municipal Water District of Orange County, Division 3 ballot recommendations added!
(Los Alamitos, 10/27/2012) We’ve sat through two Candidate Forums, read through all the pertinent OC Register Editorials, and spoken with almost all of the candidates.!
Below we present your “cheat sheet,” with both the Register’s and our recommendations for your consideration. We also encourage you to share yours (diplomatically, of course) in a comment below.
OC Register Recommendations (followed by ours in italics):
- Prop DD (“Telephone Users Tax Reduction/Modernization”) No (Expands the tax to “cover virtually every form of electronic communication”) LetsFixLosAl’s recommendation: Agree. Way to broad (just read the 4 pages of fine print in your sample ballot book!). Needs to be rewritten and resubmitted to voters in two years.
- Los Alamitos City Council: Richard Murphy(His “independence and fiscal probity would be a welcome reprieve from the lock-step behavior of the current Council majority.”)
- The Register on our other 3 Candidates:
- Ken Stephens: “We found his argument that what amounts to a massive tax increase was about “fairness” to be disingenuous. There’s nothing “fair” about increasing the city’s total tax take during tight economic times.”
- Demi Devaney: While we stop short of endorsing her, we encourage residents to take a closer look.”
- Dean Grose: “Strikes us as lacking the judgment necessary to serve. . . . Were he re-elected, we worry what message that would send to the world about Los Alamitos [referring to Grose’s possibly “racist” watermelon e-mail]. . . . Mr. Grose’s support of Measure DD is but the final example of why he doesn’t deserve a return trip to the Council.”
- LetsFixLosAl: Agree 100%.. I plan to vote for only 1, Richard Murphy, a 30 year resident with 25 years CPA experience & supporters on both “sides” of our divided city. If I vote for a second candidate, I’ll probably go along with the Register’s semi-endorsement of Demi Devaney.
- The Register on our other 3 Candidates:
- 72nd Assembly District: Travis Allen. “After vetting both candidates, both of whom have merit, the Register’s Editorial Board endorses Travis Allen, whom we hope will be energetic, circumspect and stand up for fiscally prudent principles in the California Assembly.” LetsFixLosAl: Agree, after watching both candidates at the RHA Candidate Forum. Allen seemed more energetic, more excited about the potential for California’s future.
Rossmoor/Los Al Sewer District: Nothing in the Register on this one, here’s my evaluation based on what I saw at the Candidate Forum and learned from a few locals with a long memory. Candidates in ballot order, vote for 3 max:
- Carolyn Sylvia: No. Supported Los Al taking over the Sewer District and it’s huge surplus in 1999, couldn’t explain why when asked at the Forum.
- Eric Frankenberg: No. No real problem with him, I simply felt the other three candidates were stronger.
- Van M. Jew: Yes! A Civil Engineer with professional experience in Sewer-related issues. Very impressive.
- Jim Bell: Absolutely!!! I’ve known Jim, the son of Los Al’s first Mayor, for years. He’s honest, diligent, & done a great job as an incumbent. I think anyone who knows Jim would agree.
- William Poe: Yes!! Like Jim Bell, Poe’s an experienced incumbent whose Dad helped start the Sewer District.
Municipal Water District, Div. 3: Joel M. Rattner . Crandall & Osborne also appear qualified, but Rattner is an Industrial Engineer and has served admirably on our on Rossmoor/Los Alamitos Sewer District as well. He’s also been attending the OC Water Council Monthly Meetings for almost six years. [ad]
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Troy Edgar is really getting desperate. His last whine in the OCR today is really funny.
This is the first election that he is having a real challenge. His past runs in Mayberry South, were easy for him because he had all that trash money for slick flyers. He had the CPLA / LATV president Chuck Sylvia sending out hit pieces on his opponents, although that didn’t work out all that well because there are two council members who got elected anyway. And how’s that working out for him?? They have endorsed his opponent.
Thank God there are voters in Los al who can think for themselves. Thank God we have those two council members to point out what is happening to the government of our town.
Yes, Edgar’s in the fight of his life. One where even though he said in the newspapers, and in his campaign that he lives in Los Alamitos, and he is such a big part of the community. I don’t believe voters in the entire district believe that.
The voter’s know how to read between the lines on those slicks flyers. They know to go to the local political blogs/news sources for the truth.
Sources like http://www.ocpolitical.com OR http://www.ocpoliti csblog.com or http://www.ocweekly.com . Yes, interesting what you can find out about just how the campaign game is played out.
Even the http://www.ocregister.com Editorial board endorses his opponent Travis Allen for the AD72 seat. Yes, Edgar it’s not what you say it what you do. You raise taxes, you make excuses, and you do not play well with others. Yous hould never be representing anything in Sacramento
If Edgar is the right person for the job , why is he still using the same tactics by sending out hit pieces on his opponent. I mean really Edgar? The guy has an $8,000 fine for all his years in the business. You Edgar, will have more than $8,000 in fines just for the laws you have broken in this one campaign.
Good luck with that.
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Troy Edgar is really getting desperate. His last whine in the OCR is really funny.
This is the first election that he is having a real challenge. His past runs in Mayberry South, were easy for him because he had all that trash money for slick flyers. He had the CPLA / LATV president Chuck Sylvia sending out hit pieces on his opponents, although that didn’t work out all that well because we have two council member who got elected anyway. And how’s that working out for him?? They have endorsed his opponent.
Thank God there are voters in Los al who can think for themselves. Thank God we have those two council members to point out what is happening to the government of our town.
Yes, Edgar’s in the fight of his life. One where even though he said in the newspapers, and in his campaign that he lives in Los Alamitos and he is such a big part of the community. I don’t believe voters in the entire district believe that now.
The voter’s know how to read between the lines on those slicks flyers. They know to go to the local political blogs/news sources for the truth.
Sources like http://www.ocpolitical.com OR http://www.ocpoliti csblog.com or http://www.ocweekly.com . Yes, interesting what you can find out about just how the campaign game is played out.
Even the http://www.ocregister.com Editorial board endorses his opponent Travis Allen for the AD72 seat. Yes Edgar it’s not what you say it’s what you do. You raise taxes, you make excuses, and you do not play well with others. You should never be representing anything in Sacramento
If Edgar is the right person for the job , why is he still using the same tactics by sending out hit pieces on his opponent. I mean really Edgar? He has an $8,000 fine for all his years in the business. You Edgar will have more than $8,000 in fines just for the laws you have broken in this one campaign.
Good luck with that.
More junk mailers in the mail yesterday. I like the endorsement flyers from the various bogus organizations. As a candidate, you pay them to post you as an endorsement on their junk mailers.
I’d like to get in on some of that money! Kind of like paying someone to be your friend. I noticed one that had Stephens and Gross on it. Stephens didn’t pay for the endorsement and Gross did.
At least it hasn’t been a mud fest like previous elections, then again, there’s still plenty of time before the elections.
I usually start a ballot by elimination. So a first cut of my ballot was to eliminate those candidates that I wouldn’t vote for thereby leaving those I would consider.
City Council elimination.
Grose: Bad judgement (continuous and never ending. While some people learn and grow, he doesn’t)
Stephens: Ms. Yee (I have explained it in another post, but you don’t set up and then sell out good people) and his 180 on all his prior work (too Romney for me… First a deep conservative for years, now a moderate to get my vote – years of voting with Edgar and now 180 promises on his prior votes)
Devaney: Behavior unbecoming a candidate for office (sign usage). The closest to getting that second vote, but she appears to be ethically challenged (also her total lack of knowledge to anything related to current Los Al politics and Los Al events, but people can learn, so that alone is not a reason to not vote for her).
AD-72 elimination:
Edgar: Criminal. Yes, he is not been convicted of any crime, yet. But just because he has the power and authority (and friends) to avoid investigation doesn’t mean that he is not a criminal. From taking money to give contracts, to creating a fraudulent public document, to lying about finances in his campaign, he has a continuous record of criminal behavior.
Sewer District:
Sylvia: We have all seen the youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReVgExNGyp0 of how she stole a campaign sign (even if her claim that she “just moved it” is to be believed… really, she just moved someone else’s property, by what right?). She is clearly ethically challenged. Add to that her prior outspoken belief that the thing she is running to be on should be abolished and she just is the wrong person in the wrong place.
So there you have it. My first cut at the ballot, one week out.
One reason I find it hard to get behind a man who mails a slick flyer with several lies on it.
You have a full head of gray hair , but the picture on the flyer shows you with red hair. How old it that picture?
If you can’t be honest about that, then what else are you dishonest about? BTW Ken that was a rhetirical question.
We know your pushing 70. Being the oldest candidate running is not the problem. It’s that whole you can’t think for yourself problem.
Personally, I can’t wait to see the plan to “get traffic moving”. Is he going to shut down Katella to all cars but those that live in Los Alamitos?
Keep taxes down? TUT comes to mind. A DD that no one likes.
Hire more police? I have yet to hear the Chief say that he needs to increase the size of the department in public, but maybe he has, @ $100K per officer, how does Ken plan on paying for it?
Work in partnership with LAUSD? I guess that wasn’t you who was all on board slowing down Los Alamitos Blvd between Katella and Cerritos, the main street used by almost 2,000 of the 3,000 students at LAHS. I’m sure that the district would have been 100% supportive of making it harder for parents to get their kids to school.
“Focus on Public Safety” Continue? Didn’t you just approve adding more office space to serve Leisure World at LAMC?
Oh, I see where that comes from “Continue to support programs for our seniors”, bu giving LAMC everything they want, even if doing so ties traffic on Katella into knots.
Enough! If anyone believes the promises in ANY candidate mailer when it disagrees with the candidates prior voting positions, then they really do deserve the candidate that they vote for if they vote based on a pack of misinformation that can easily be checked.
They may get the government they deserve as low information voters, I don’t.
Another place to get an opinion…
http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2012/10/john-and-kens-2012-orange-county-voters-guide-by-vern/
as the vote gets closer..
http://ocpoliticsblog.com/troy-edgars-prospects-dim-ad72-candidate-goes-ballistic/
Los Alamitos City Council
Ken Stephens – Republican
Dean Grose – Republican
Demi Devaney – Democrat
Richard D. Murphy – Republican
LMAO, Heads explode when this (D) has two lawn signs in his yard and both are (R).
I just knew you’d see the light someday! Good for you…unless the 2 (R)’s are candidates other than Murphy and Allen, then we’ll have to talk.
We knew you would come around one of these days JM.
I’m an R, but there are a few R’s I would never vote for just because their an R.
See how that works?
You need to do better research JM! Murhpy is a “D” and always has been, unless he’s flip floped like Edgar. So you can now vote for him because he’s on your side of the fence. So that’s two “R”s and two “D”s in the race. You get Murphy/Devaney.
Here are the facts:
http://ocpolitical.com/2012/10/30/republican-democrat-independent-the-partisan-affiliations-of-everyone-running-everything-in-orange-county/
To: Check your facts
How in the world could you bad mouth Murphy and call him a flip flop?!
Have you watched any of the debates? Murphy is the most professional and most qualified candidate on the ballot! He is a Republican by the way.
Do you think that the Register would have endorsed a Dem in this race? They chose him over a disingenuous incumbent and a man who uses very poor judgement.
Murphy has run a very clean race, brings a CPA background and will be independent of both sides. Mr. Murphy the councilman is exactly what we need in this town.
Really? Murph’s a (D). You could have fooled me. In fact you could have fooled the press since that was a cut-and-paste from a story on another site and not my opinion.
On the other hand I have always assumed that Richard was an (R) from always seeing him at the Royce events I attended and the fact that he agrees with Art on national political issues far more than he agrees with me.
So, if you have proof that Mr. Murphy is a (D) then I suggest that you provide the source.
Here was my source:
http://ocpolitical.com/2012/10/30/republican-democrat-independent-the-partisan-affiliations-of-everyone-running-everything-in-orange-county/
One final note, it is VERY unusual for the OCR to endorse a member of the Democratic Party, and Murph did get their endorsement and was the only candidate to do so. Tends to support the ocpolitical post.
There are good reasons why City Council elections are non-partisan in California. What we need are intelligent, honest, competent & diligent residents who care about our city.
Not dishonest carpetbaggers who move in so they can move on, or their yes men.
Certainly not someone like incumbant Ken Stephens voted to put the massive tax increase concealed as a “reduction,” Measure DD on the ballot. Then signed the ballot argument for it. Then opoosed it when questioned in the Candidate forum. Then refused to state how he’d vote on it, citing the “sacred privacy” of the voting booth. How about the sacred right of voters to know where a candidate actually stands on an important issue?
Certainly not someone like Dean Grose who’s already made out town a national laughingstock once in only 2 months as Mayor.
Probably not a newcomer still struggling to grasp the issues like Demi.
How about a 30 year resident, business owner with 25 years CPA experience, supporters on both sides of our divided City, who was unanimously elected by our divided Council to the Traffic Commission. That would be Richard Murphy.
Party doesn’t matter. Integrity and competence do.
Richard Murphy is the only logical choice.
If you must vote for two, take the inexperienced rookie, Demi Devaney, over the obfuscating incumbent Stephens, who voted for the fifth highest trash contract–twice–a second time after voting to eliminate the “lowest bid” part of the trash law. . . and then said in the candidate forum that he supported reinstating the “lowest bid” requirement he voted to remove. REALLY???? Nor the disgraced former Mayor who still can’t explain how a watermelon field in front of the white house can be funny without involving racist stereotypes, Dean Grose.
In this election, there are far more important issues than party, and “Check your facts” is apparently making up lies because there are no facts to support re-electing either Stephens or Grose.
Hmmm, making up lies out of thin air to oppose candidates of integrity. Shades of the 2008 and 2010 elections.
Mr. S? Mr. B?
You know the sad part about this election is that some people will pass over decent candidates and not vote for candidate “X” because “so and so” is voting for candidate “X”. There total disdain for “so and so” blinds them from doing the right thing as a voter.
Some notables so far:
Richard Murphy – Marilyn Poe encouraged him to run but when Murphy’s yard signs were given to her, she handed them out to others instead of posting even one at her home. What’s in her yard? A Ken Stephens yard sign. On the bright side at least she doesn’t have a Gross sign in her yard. It seems even Marilyn has her standards.
Gross – has stated he will vote for DD at his OC Register Interview then did a John Kerry “flip flop” and stated he would vote against it at the candidate forum. Can we trust him with this vital act of taxation on our city? As Troy Edgar is circling the drain and being alienated from virtually every Republican on the face of this earth, Gross still sports an Edgar sign in his yard next to his Gross shower curtain. Birds of a feather flock together. I also have to say that I placed a couple of signs for a candidate and they have disappeared only to be replaced with Gross signs. This man lacked a “Moral Compass” in his early attempts at a council seat and certainly lacks one now.
Ken Stephens – Got a slick glossy mailer from him the other day. Talked about how he is an advocate for LAUSD and the kids. Why was he the solo “no” vote to donate the city’s fair share of refurbishment money to LAUSD’s Oak Middle School Gym!? As an employee of a fitness company it doesn’t send a good message to the District or the kids. If he was picking a time to try and show that he can be an independent and a fiscally conservative council member, he picked a very poor item to vote “no” on. Perhaps someone should tell him that our city and the kids use/rely on that gym too!
Demi Devaney – I’m sorry, we need someone who knows how things work and is up to speed. We don’t have time to teach her all of the things she will need to know to be responsible for our city’s budget. If I were siting on an oral board and she came across my panel, she would be totally unqualified. She seems very nice but we need experience. Having ties to Cypress and NEVER seeing her involved in any City dealings whatsoever leaves a big question mark too. Is she using this position to help Cypress or to network her Real Estate business? She is a total unknown and I’m not willing to find out what her intentions might really be.
Troy Edgar – It was only a matter of time for the whole world to see the real Edgar the way we have seen him over the last 6 years. He certainly has done a masterful job at being Troy. He is working his way towards “Gross status” but still has some distance to go.
I really hope the Los Al voters take the time to educate themselves instead of rubber stamping their votes. This local election is as important as who we will choose to put into the White House for the next 4 years so educate yourselves and vote.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
October 25, 2012
Contact: Nicole Stygar
(714) 759-2385
Used-to-Be Endorses a Wannabe,
But Question the Veracity
ORANGE COUNTY – On Wednesday, the fledgling wannabe Assembly campaign of Travis Allen announced that former Chair of the California Republican Party Mike Schroeder (1997-99) had pulled his endorsement of Los Alamitos Mayor Troy Edgar and had instead endorsed the candidacy of Travis Allen. Schroeder is best known recently in Orange County political circles as the primary defender of the disgraced and now-imprisoned former Orange County Sheriff Mike Carona.
When reached at the Orange County Sanitation District – where Edgar serves as Chairman of the Board, once he stopped laughing hysterically, Edgar stated: “I was a bit surprised by the news – especially since I never knew Schroeder had endorsed me. If he had, it was one of the best kept secrets in Orange County politics,” said Edgar.
“I never listed his support on my website, in any printed materials, or referred to it in any press releases. I did see his endorsement listed on Mr. Allen’s website over 3 months ago. I guess the next “Breaking News” from the Allen campaign will be the complete listing of everyone who has “unfriended” me in this campaign on Facebook, which then will be followed by the announcement that I have been placed on Double-Secret Probation,” added Edgar.
Schroeder listed three reasons why he pulled his alleged endorsement.
CHARGE 1: Edgar refused to sign the No New Taxes Pledge.
“The editor of the Flash Report – Jon Fleischman, used my 6 point contract with the Voters of the 72nd Assembly District as an example of someone who went above and beyond most who just sign a pledge,” said Edgar. “Of course, in recent years, there are numerous examples of folks who, like Allen, had no record and really, really wanted to be elected so they could be somebody, and they signed the No New Taxes Pledge – only to cave and break their word. I have a strong record of fighting taxes – in fact the Orange County Republican Party named me the Taxfighter of the year in 2011,” added Edgar.
CHARGE 2: Edgar supports a tax increase in Los Alamitos.
The issue in Los Alamitos is actually a 1% TAX REDUCTION but why should one confusesomeone by actually considering the facts? I don’t see how a decrease in overall revenue to the City can be characterized as a tax increase, but then again, there we go using facts to make decisions.
CHARGE 3: Edgar violated campaign finance laws in his Congressional Campaign. “If Mr. Schroeder has a problem with the alleged issues associated with Edgar’s Congressional Campaign, he should do what is proper – file a complaint with the Federal
Elections Commission (FEC) who has jurisdiction over the matter,” said Rob Stutzman, strategist for the Edgar Campaign. In a 2007 profile on Schroeder in the Los Angeles Times,
Catherine Saillant described Schroeder in the following way:
“A USC-trained lawyer who made his fortune selling malpractice insurance to chiropractors, Schroeder isn’t hesitant to file lawsuits when he believes he has been wronged.”
“The only conversation I had with Mr. Schroeder when I was transitioning from my Congressional race to my Assembly race dealt with the firing of his close political ally, Brandon Powers, who had been running the Congressional Campaign,” said Edgar. “I explained the reasons why I had fired him and he (Schroeder) told me that letting him (Powers) go was a mistake, and in an almost threatening tone, declared that I would regret it someday. Now that I am watching the machinations of the nattering nabobs of negativism which currently emanate from the Allen campaign, I am even happier to have fired him before I was tarred with his slash and burn reputation,” said Edgar.
Later in the LA Times profile of Schroeder, he was described in the following manner:
“Schroeder, 50, revels in his reputation as the enforcer of Orange County Republican politics…”
“It is interesting to note that Schroeder is now officially endorsing someone who was a financial supporter of Governor Jerry Brown, Lt. Governor Gavin Newsom, Senator Barbara Boxer, has an active FPPC complaint regarding numerous campaign finance violations, had
his personal; investment corporation suspended in 2011 by the Franchise Tax Board, and has had at least three filings against him and monetary penalties – personally connected to his
securities licenses – with federal investment officials, for charges which include Breach of Fiduciary Duty, Failure to Timely Deliver a Policy, and being associated with a firm that was
shut down by the SEC for selling high risk securities to individuals who wanted low risk investments. Allen has what is known in the investment business as a “Dirty U-4” which is often associated with careless and shoddy business practices,” added Stutzman.
“I guess the Allen campaign is leading this race in endorsements of “formers” and “also-rans” but even more importantly, in self-serving and vacuous press releases. Mr. Allen’s campaign is all about image and self promotion, but then again, his campaign did spend almost $1,000 at a Beverly Hills boudoir glamour photo studio for his head shots,” Edgar added.
“My campaign – from the very beginning – has been about substance and issues, which is why I have garnered so much support. My campaign of substance has resonated with the voters as evidenced by my overwhelming support across the community – the current tally of real endorsements of currently elected officials (Year 2012) is 46-3,” said Edgar.
Troy Edgar has the support Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, Congressman Ed Royce, every Republican representing Sacramento in the State Senate and the State Assembly, every Mayor of every city in the District, a majority of members of City Councils throughout the District. In the cities of Fountain Valley and Westminster, Edgar has all 5 members of the City Council. He has also garnered the support of OC District Attorney Tony Rackauckas, OC Sheriff Sandra Hutchens, the Chairman of the OC Board of Supervisors John M. W. Moorlach, and Board of Equalization Member Michelle Steel.
Troy Edgar is also endorsed and supported by the Howard Jarvis Taxpayer’s Association, the Orange County Taxpayer’s Association, the Orange County Family PAC, the Orange County Business Council, the California Small Business Association, the California Women’s Leadership Association and the California Republican Assembly.
Troy Edgar is a husband and father of three sons, a homeowner, Navy veteran, owns and operates two businesses, and is serving his second term as Mayor of Los Alamitos. Edgar is also active in his community and volunteers much of his time with the Casa Youth Shelter, AYSO, PTA, and his local Chamber of Commerce.
Troy and his wife Betty – a school teacher – live in Los Alamitos.
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Paid for by Troy Edgar for Assembly 2012 • FPPC #1344002
http://www.ocregister.com/news/edgar-375927-schroeder-allen.html
http://ocpoliticsblog.com/category/troy-edgar/
http://ocpoliticsblog.com/troy-edgars-prospects-dim-ad72-candidate-goes-ballistic/
http://ocpoliticsblog.com/oc-register-endorses-travis-allen-for-72nd-assembly-race/
http://ocpoliticsblog.com/mike-schroeder-switches-endorsement-to-travis-allen-from-troy-edgar-in-ad72/
http://ocpoliticsblog.com/it-doesnt-deserve-a-response/
Momentum means a great deal.
http://www.flashreport.org/blog/2012/10/30/ad72-allen-r-vs-edgar-r-now-rated-a-toss-up-race/
But so does
But that has been mentioned before. Edgar burns bridges, Allen builds them.
the Edgar campaign is getting desperate – now Edgar is making stuff up as usual (some would call them LIES):
it will be interesting if Edgar were to demonstrate that he has the leadership and the guts to ask Travis Allen about the “November 1st” event at this venue.
of course the will be nothing since this is a lie and Edgar cannot back up his claim with any proof.
the voters in Los Al are familiar with Edgar’s “struggles with telling the truth” – heck, he’s done this in the past elections in the City – only that time he was smarter to hide behind a gutless used-to-be city leader named chuckie sylvia and chuckies equally charming, sign-stealing spouse. Oh where, oh where is the CPLA and LATA now? Did Edgar’s past supporters finally see the light and abandon Edgar?
http://www.votetroyedgar.com/press_release.php#articles
Are there even any of his supporters left or even anyone at all who cares to read this guys press releases!? This guy needs to fire his strategists…what a minute, maybe his strategists should fire Troy. They have absolutely nothing to work with.
http://ocpoliticsblog.com/fleischman-fudges-on-tax-pledge-calls-ad72-a-toss-up/
Is it any wonder how this man has voted for the last 6 years based on these supporters?
http://losalamitos.patch.com/articles/los-al-mayor-has-fundraising-edge-over-assembly-race-opponent
http://ocpoliticsblog.com/a-republican-by-convenience-and-deceit/
Is Los Alamitos for sale?
http://losalamitos.patch.com/articles/former-los-al-mayor-leads-in-election-spending-for-city-council-race
There are 7,125 registered voters in the City of Los Alamitos per the current OC Registrar of Voters.
Dean Grose has spent $1.44 for each and every one of them. If as many vote as voted in the 2008 election (5,172), that’s just a tad under $2.00 per voter. In 2008 the top vote getter had 2,018 votes. That would be $5.10 per vote if Dean matches that.
Is Los Alamitos for sale? We shall know on Tuesday night. That was a very expensive watermelon (and Blue Pigeon) e-mail.
Are you calling this a cheat sheet because its filled with cheats like Edgar the liar, Stephens the spineless, and Grose the racist? Edgars political career needs to end in Los Alamitos where the racist mayor Dean Grose ended his.
How may times can a person run for office in Los Al? Is Dean going for a record. I saw him claiming to have won the Tour De France as many time as Lance Armstrong…Dean, go away already…
Joker,
Where you been? Thought we would be hearing a lot more Joker-isms from you during an election time. Especially with Grose running for the umpteenth million time!
Sorry guys, the ol’ Joker has been too busy to be bothered with little los al type stuff. Pass me another beer.
Welcome back Lisette. Where have you been? Out shopping?
Or maybe with Wendy G. stealing signs!!
Hey believe it or not I miss Lisette’s tooth brush waiving, latte, newspaper complaining days.
After all those reimbursements only cost the city what about $9.95?
That was pretty cheap compared to getting stuck with a $6.5 million dollar trash bill, a lawsuit and a national watermelon scandal that brought disgrace to Los Al of epic proportions.
Where was the tooth brush waver then?
Joker,
I smell a set up! Did Briggeman give you those beers and then phoned the PD after he handed you the keys to his Avalanche?
I have only found little to make fun of in these hard economic times, with every barn yard animal running for some seat in some election with no regard for the people they want to represent.
Yes, when is Grose going to give it a rest? Hopefully this will be the last time we have to see his sorry face on flyers and news papers, trying to run for office in Los Al. Spending 10K on his campaign is just plain gross! Makes me wonder if he’s “old money” or “old guy with ‘kick back money’”…
one thing for sure about Gross. He does not know the name of his OC Supervisor. The one mailer he sends out and he get it wrong. “Tom Moriach!?” Way to go Gross, the least you could do is spell check your info.